Christian fundamentalists are driving our country into the Dark Ages

By Dakota O’Leary | 1 February 2013

(Photograph: Martin Godwin for the Guardian)

America has an infection. Whether it is terminal remains to be seen. The infection is that of anti-intellectualism, a steadfast refusal to acknowledge that one’s worldview is mutable, a worldview in which facts are only facts if they fit that worldview, and that anyone who disagrees with a Christian fundamentalist worldview is an “enemy” of God. The infection has taken hold in conservative politics, where it has spread to a significant portion of the American population, and even into a significant amount of the Canadian population. In Katherine Stewart’s article in the Guardian entitled “How Christian Fundamentalism Feeds Into the Toxic Partisanship of US Politics,” Stewart notes:

I don’t believe for a moment that this hysterical voice [Christian fundamentalism] that screeches in America’s political sphere is the authentic voice of religion in America. Most religious Americans want to mix it up at lunch! They want to make friends across party lines, and they want to help people who are less fortunate. A survey by the Public Religious Research Institute, released on 24 October, reveals that 60% of Catholics believe the Church should place a greater emphasis on social justice issues and their obligation to the poor, even if that means focusing less on culture war issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. Earlier this year, in response to the Ryan budget, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops joined other Christian leaders in insisting that a “circle of protection” be drawn around “essential programs that serve poor and vulnerable people”.

So why is it that the so-called “values voters” are urged to vote against the politician who supports choice, not the politician who wants to shred that “circle of protection” for the poor and vulnerable? Why is it that when politicians want to demonstrate just how religiously righteous they are, they talk about banning same-sex marriage and making contraceptives hard to get, instead of showing what they have done to protect the weak?

There is an obvious answer, and it is, in a sense, staring you in the face every time you watch a political debate or read about the latest antics of Focus on the Family and the AFA. The kind of religion that succeeds in politics tends to focus on the divisive element of religion. If you want to use religion to advance a partisan political agenda, the main objective you use it for is to divide people between us and them, between the in-group and the out-group, the believers and the infidels.

The result is a reduction of religion to a small handful of wedge issues. According to the religious leaders and policy organizations urging Americans to vote with their “Biblical values”, to be Christian now means to support one or, at most, a small handful of policy positions. And it means voting for the Republican party.

Christian fundamentalists are not to be confused with mainstream evangelical Christians. While Christian fundamentalists may be evangelical, not every evangelical Christian is necessarily a fundamentalist. The symptoms of the infection of anti-intellectualism are as follows:

1. Erosion of education — escalating attacks on teachers as bad citizens, teachers’ unions as greedy “takers”, the evolution vs. creationism debate, resistance to stem cell research (or any kind of scientific research that conflicts with their Biblical worldview), fundamentalist emphasis on voucher system to create taxpayer funded fundamentalist schools, fear of a changing, increasingly pluralistic society (the current face of which is the extraordinary power fundamentalists give to the LGBT community as the force eroding American morality and bringing down the entire nation), and a negative economy which is generating public support by those who consider themselves members of the Religious Right by demonizing public education as a “liberal conspiracy” to take their children away from God.

2. Biblical Literalism: The Bible is the foundation of “truth,” from science to social interactions, and anything that disagrees with a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible is a product of Satanic manipulation, of which the by-product of Satan is secularism.

3. Oversimplification: The idea that there is a clear right and wrong (based on Biblical laws, or cherry-picked verses), the universe is either moral or immoral, and that so-called “assaults” on religious “freedom” of fundamentalists signify an invisible war between the forces of God (or “good”) and the forces of Satan (or “evil”).

4. Assertion of the patriarchal right to control women: To fundamentalists, women are second-class citizens, subject to a strict social hierarchy. This hierarchy can be observed in every stripe of fundamentalism, from Islamic fundamentalism to Christian fundamentalism and it goes like this:

God/Jesus is the head of the man

Man is the head of the woman, subject only to God

Woman is subjugated to a status which is wholly reliant on having “faith” that her husband will do the right thing because he is specially influenced by God by special decree of the Bible. Fundamentalist website after website counsels women that if her husband does wrong that the only thing she can do is pray that God will guide him to a different decision, that she is not to disagree with him publicly (or in front of children). She is free (sometimes) to give an opinion, but the ultimate decision is the man’s, because he has special dispensation by God to be in that position. The equal status of women is a threat to this hierarchy, and thus, a threat to God.

A gathering of evangelical Christians in Washington. (Photo: Mark Wilson / Reuters)

This is why America is seeing so many attacks on women, from trying to pass laws that undermine Roe v. Wade (personhood laws, restrictions on abortions, waiting periods, attempts to push laws to punish abortion doctors, restrictions on being able to get birth control, etc), to going to the trouble of redefining rape as being the woman’s fault, even part of God’s plan, while pushing to give rapists parental rights, to the unfortunate proclamations of Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock, et. Al, that babies born of rape are blessings from God, that the female body shuts down its reproductive system when a woman is being raped, etc.). Controlling women’s bodies while at the same time denouncing “big government” is the popular meme of the fundamentalist mind. Women are simply not meant to destroy that Godly hierarchy set up by the Bible, and in their minds if you can control women, you’ve got half the populace conquered for God.

Fundamentalist anti-intellectualism often manifests itself in a sort of “pseudo-intellectualism” by which those with little or no educational background read a few articles or watch a few videos about a particular subject (usually published by their own religious compatriots, particularly about what a scientific theory is and evolution), and consider themselves “educated” because what they read agreed with their worldview, or, if being highly educated, usually get that education in a fundamentalist educational setting. They will then take that “evidence” and proceed to use it against empirical evidence that directly contests and even eviscerates the arguments they have carefully set up around what they have read or seen, and the argument invariably ends with ad hominem attacks against reason, facts, and education — because they have no actual evidence outside of the Bible to use to “win” the argument. A favorite tactic is to call the opposition an “atheist” (or a “liberal”) if someone disagrees with their worldview.

Education is then “demonized” as being a covert movement to “indoctrinate” the masses in the secular worldview, and thus, part of the forces of Satan. Rick Santorum demonstrates this principle admirably. Although he himself is highly educated, with a bachelor’s degree, Master’s degree and JD from Penn State, his Biblical worldview clearly trumps his empirical education and allows him to disregard it as a fly in the ointment in the “light of Biblical truth,” which is, of course, only empirical in that it is in print, in black and white, not empirical that it can actually be proven. Faith is evidence enough, and reason becomes a threat to faith, thus, reason is from Satan, not God. A good case in point is the persecution of Copernicus and Galileo by the Catholic Church, regarding the revolution of the Earth around the sun. This old argument, which has been proven in favor of Copernicus and Galileo, has arisen once again to haunt us.

According to a recent National Science Foundation survey, over twenty percent of the respondents believed in the geocentric model popular during the 1500s, that the sun revolves around the earth instead of the other way around. This is old, disproven thinking that comes from the idea that since humanity is God’s creation, naturally, everything revolves around humanity, with humanity at the center of creation. Humanity is thus, special. Anything that challenges the idea that humanity is special is thus a threat against God. After all, you can’t feel the earth move, so it must be stationary. You can’t see the stars move (well, you can with a telescope, something called parallax), but you can’t see it with the naked eye, so thus, the earth must be stationary with the sun moving around it. This is an example of pseudo-intellectualism. You know what you see, but you don’t investigate to see if your assertions are valid under close scrutiny. Fundamentalists cannot afford to indulge in close scrutiny of their ideas, because close scrutiny would most certainly disprove most of what they believe, and they fear, more than anything else, of the erosion of their own faith.

In 1982, forty-four per cent of Americans held strictly creationist views, a statistically insignificant difference from 2012. Furthermore, the percentage of Americans that believe in biological evolution has only increased by four percentage points over the last twenty years.

Susan Jacoby, author of “The Age of American Unreason” and “Freethinkers” sums up the problem of fundamentalist anti-intellectualism succinctly:

This mindless tolerance, which places observable scientific facts, subject to proof, on the same level as unprovable supernatural fantasy, has played a major role in the resurgence of both anti-intellectualism and anti-rationalism.

Copernicus and Galileo were persecuted by the Catholic Church for suggesting that humanity on earth was indeed not the center of the universe. Copernicus did not suffer much persecution while he was alive, but after he was dead, his hypothesis that the earth revolved around the sun certainly did. Galileo dared to revive Copernicus’ idea, and packaged it in a mock debate between characters in a book he wrote called Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (Dialogo sopra i due massimi sistemi del mondo) in 1632. The Catholic Church’s militaristic arm, the Inquisition, caught wind of what he had written, and banned his book, and placed Galileo under house arrest.

Now, the Catholic Church’s disagreement with Galileo and Copernicus did not make their ideas less true, which the idea certainly was, and revealed to be true through empirical scientific investigation over a period of years. Instead, the Church deflected the facts as “heresy,” which is something fundamentalists are particularly adept at doing. Ken Ham’s Creation Museum is a testament to this deflection of scientific facts as heresy. By dismissing evolution as nothing more than a “theory,” (which goes to show pure, deliberate ignorance of what exactly a scientific theory is), we see again the application of the ad hominem attack Christian fundamentalists so love to employ when inconvenient facts get in the way.

The fundamentalists of today are a hardy lot, and they will use anything to win this battle for God — the Bible, which is the ultimate authority, the Constitution, revisionist science textbooks, and revisionist American history (a la David Barton) that “proves” America was a nation founded to be their brand of a “Christian nation.” Never mind they are not Constitutional scholars. The Constitutional scholars are a threat to them because even though scholars have differing opinions about interpretation of the Constitution, any opinion that differs from the fundamentalist worldview is a direct attack on God. Never mind that the fundamentalist that lives in the general population is not a scientist. They know better, because Ken Ham and the Bible tell them that there is NO WAY God would use evolution to create (even though the Bible says nothing on the subject of evolution. The Bible is black and white. God created the world as it is now in six days, and rested on the seventh.

You will rarely see a fundamentalist in a secular college or university because secular universities and colleges do not agree with their worldview. This is why for the most part they are homeschooled, and go straight from homeschool to fundamentalist universities that teach their worldview. These universities and colleges churn out fundamentalists who are schooled in law, but only an interpretation of law that fits their Biblical worldview. Lawyers or judges who disagree with them, particularly in Supreme Court cases are dismissed ad hominem as “activist lawyers” and “activist judges” (i.e. enemies of God). This lack of empirical education is changing American society into one that has eroded science education, particularly with their attempts to force the school voucher issue, which is nothing but a bid to get taxpayers to fund fundamentalist education, yet they object to taxpayer funded public education because “secularism” is persecuting them for their beliefs by simply disagreeing with them (because again, nothing they believe is based on empirical evidence).

Jerry Falwell Jr. has ambitious plans to affect life, law and culture in America, and it’s all being germinated at Liberty University, the fundamentalist bastion his father founded. (Source: Americans United)

The lack of empirical education is eroding American society in favor of a “faith based” education that has nothing whatsoever to do with facts that threaten their worldview. Liberty is something they interpret as the freedom to live in a society based solely on their Biblical worldview. Freedom of religion for others in an inclusive society is anathema to them, because such freedom threatens to sideline them to the fringes. Individual liberty does not exist except for them, because they have an inherent distrust of the individual to make reasonable decisions, unless those decisions are based on their interpretation of Scripture. Thus, mainstream Christians are not their brethren; mainstream Christians are simply misinformed individuals who have deluded themselves into believing they are of the family of Christ, and only the clear lens of fundamentalism can see that mainstream Christians have been deceived by the enemy of God which is secular society.

The sole aim of fundamentalists is to “obey” God in creating conditions favorable to the return of Christ–and this one thought, this one design drives American foreign policy with Israel (they believe that when the Jews all return to Israel and the 3rd temple is rebuilt that Christ will return, (but not without sacrificing 2/3 of the Jewish people in the process), then all the remaining Jews will become Christians. American fundamentalists are only interested in Jewish people and Israel insofar as it furthers the return of Jesus Christ. That is all.

Because fundamentalists are engaged in the idea that they are warriors in a fight for God, (something Christian fundamentalists hold in common with Islamic fundamentalists), they have the sort of mindset that if it came to it (which it has not yet, I do not think), they would not afraid to die for their faith. Proof of this idea was given a disturbing form by a video game “Left Behind: Eternal Forces,” which advocates killing anyone who doesn’t agree with them (i.e. can’t be converted to their idea of Christ):

Aimed at conservative Christians, the game’s story line begins in a time after the “rapture”, when fundamentalist dogma contends that Christians will go to heaven. The remaining population on earth must then choose between surrendering to or resisting “the Antichrist”, which the game describes as the “Global Community Peacekeepers” whose objective is the imposition of “one-world government”.

“Part of the object is to kill or convert the opposing forces,” Simpson said. This is “antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” he said, adding that he was dismayed by the concept in “Eternal Forces” of using prayer to restore a player’s “spirit points” after killing the enemy.

In the game, combatants on one side pause for prayer, intoning, “Praise the Lord”. A player can lose points for “unnecessary killing” but regain them through prayer.

But Simpson counters, “The idea that you could pray, and the deleterious effects of one’s foul deeds would simply be wiped away, is a horrible thing to be teaching Christian young people here at Christmas time.”

Troy Lyndon, CEO of Left Behind Games Inc., which is promoting the new video, has defended the game as “inspirational entertainment” and said its critics were exaggerating. The game is based on the popular “Left Behind” novels, a Bible-based end-of-the-world-saga that has sold more than 63 million copies.

Now, while this is a disturbing element, and the Left Behind books have genocidal scenes that seem to justify killing masses of unbelievers because they are incorrigible (not ever going to convert to the fundamentalist mindset), it should be reiterated that fundamentalists are not yet at the point in the US where they want to kill people, so let us not be alarmist. However, that being said, the way some fundamentalists are choosing to portray institutional racism and genocide (as punishment for sin and disbelief) to school age children is disturbing, and it is the belief of this scholar that the elements for radical action portayed in the video game are there–but would need utter desperation in order to explode into being. It is the opinion of this writer that fundamentalists are not yet this desperate, but attempts to normalize killing for God are disturbing, to say the least. The Guardian had this to say about the subject in May of 2012:

The story of the Amalekites has been used to justify genocide throughout the ages. According to Pennsylvania State University Professor Philip Jenkins, a contributing editor for the American Conservative, the Puritans used this passage when they wanted to get rid of the Native American tribes. Catholics used it against Protestants, Protestants against Catholics. “In Rwanda in 1994, Hutu preachers invoked King Saul’s memory to justify the total slaughter of their Tutsi neighbors,” writes Jenkins in his 2011 book, Laying Down the Sword: Why We Can’t Ignore the Bible’s Violent Verses (HarperCollins).

This fall, more than 100,000 American public school children, ranging in age from four to 12, are scheduled to receive instruction in the lessons of Saul and the Amalekites in the comfort of their own public school classrooms. The instruction, which features in the second week of a weekly “Bible study” course, will come from the Good News Club, an after-school program sponsored by a group called the Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF). The aim of the CEF is to convert young children to a fundamentalist form of the Christian faith and recruit their peers to the club.

There are now over 3,200 clubs in public elementary schools, up more than sevenfold since the 2001 supreme court decision, Good News Club v Milford Central School, effectively required schools to include such clubs in their after-school programing.

The CEF has been teaching the story of the Amalekites at least since 1973. In its earlier curriculum materials, CEF was euphemistic about the bloodshed, saying simply that “the Amalekites were completely defeated.” In the most recent version of the curriculum, however, the group is quite eager to drive the message home to its elementary school students. The first thing the curriculum makes clear is that if God gives instructions to kill a group of people, you must kill every last one:

You are to go and completely destroy the Amalekites (AM-uh-leck-ites) – people, animals, every living thing. Nothing shall be left.

“That was pretty clear, wasn’t it?” the manual tells the teachers to say to the kids.

Even more important, the Good News Club wants the children to know, the Amalakites were targeted for destruction on account of their religion, or lack of it. The instruction manual reads:

The Amalekites had heard about Israel’s true and living God many years before, but they refused to believe in him. The Amalekites refused to believe in God and God had promised punishment.

The instruction manual goes on to champion obedience in all things. In fact, pretty much every lesson that the Good News Club gives involves reminding children that they must, at all costs, obey. If God tells you to kill nonbelievers, he really wants you to kill them all. No questions asked, no exceptions allowed.

Educating Christian fundamentalists simply doesn’t work. They do not accept any education that is in direct conflict with their worldview. What remains is to educate the rest of the American populace about Christian fundamentalism and dominionism, educating the American populace about the David Bartons of the world, so that when elections occur, an educated populace can reject the infiltration of fundamentalism on the rest of American society, which will, given the right opportunity (usually in a climate of fear like 9/11), erode American democracy entirely and push our nation into the fringes of the world into irrelevance.

Dakota O’Leary is a freethinker, and often sassy, scholar of theology and literature. She got her Bachelor of Arts degree in English and Theology from the State University of New York College at Buffalo, and her Master of Arts degree in Theology and Literature from Antioch University-Midwest. Dakota is a co-host of the God Discussion radio show, offering insight to the news stories of the week.

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  1. But you know, the fundamentalists, and churches in general, continue to offer people things they cannot get elsewhere. Consider this: I know of no secular organization that offers a food pantry. Just one example. Nor, a secular organization that offers free lunch or dinner. The lack of secular offerings further empower the fundamentalists, and the rest.

  2. There IS a large secular organization that offers the equivalent of a food pantry. It is our federal government. They offer food stamps to the poor. But fundamentalists undermine these programs so that they can ram religion down the throats of people at their food pantries.

  3. Sadly my mindset was badly affected as a child and teenager through extreme Christian teachings. Escaped 20 yrs ago. Still requiring support from health professionals. Getting there. My heart goes out to all those recovering yet often forgotten. Such trauma is awful

  4. The belief that the bastardized ramblings of primitive people are true and a guide for living is truly pitiable. Religion is the greatest evil ever perpetrated upon humanity. It instills a false sense of superiority in its adherents, while at the same time, promotes its own variation of hatred, intolerance, and bigotry, to the point of violence and outright murder and genocide. Religion is the true evil plaguing our planet. Banking comes in at the second greatest evil. Banking steals your money; religion steals your mind.

  5. I dumped my christian religion one day when I realized one simple probability. That in all likely hood, the old testament Peoples invented a god to give them free rein to pillage, murder, rape and enslave the people of the surrounding lands they simply wanted. Simple as that, and without the old testament, the new fails as well..

  6. What Christian fundamentalists don't see is that they are buttressed by our modern industrial, technological science-based society. It is like a kind of STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) herd immunity. While they demonize science and it's applications, they are entirely supported by it. From cellphones to satellites to advanced materials to automation and robotics to cars to education to planes to vaccines to MRIs to flat screen tvs to utilities such as electricity, indoor plumbing/water, gas, wireless internet even to eclipse glasses, all these fundamentalists benefit from our modern industrial, scientific age. I'm sure no fundamentalist is calling the benefits of our modern society Satanic. To do so would simply be hypocritical.

    The fact that they see reason as a threat shows just how weak the stilts of their beliefs are. The problem with their interpretation of the Bible is just that: an interpretation. As far as science and the Bible, the Bible is so wrong on hundreds of issues that it isn't any wonder that children and young adults have to be extremely isolated from the secular world. It is disturbing.

  7. The Need for Treatment of Cognitive Deficiency in the Religious Extremest

    As long as at least 1/3 of the population is Cognitively Deficient and cannot function with the complexity involved in actual freedom and knowledge, the GOPs, the Nazis, the Inquisitions, the Abrahamic Religions of Enslavement will be with us.
    This population cannot function with complex decision making or nuanced choice. Therefore while chest/bible thumping they throw their feared and detested freedoms away at the feet of the first perceived alpha male available to them. In return they are rewarded with a world construct, albeit false, but is limited to their narrow band of reasoning.
    Therefore I do not blame Trump for Religious Reich Christians and attempts to replace Our Republic with a theocracy as much as his population of Religious followers who must have the koolaid of a limited world construct to function within.
    Because of Cognitive Dissonance they cannot allow you to be free or knowledgable and will convert or attempt to destroy you if they are left unchecked.
    Society must find methods of dealing with this population if it is to advance beyond the Nazi germanys, the slavery of the Southern US, the Christian Inquisitions. We must find productive ways of dealing with these populations as they are

    —by the physical limitations of their own brains, programmed to reproduce these conditions—

    of racism, sexism and all other forms of prejudice left unchecked or given power.
    Listing their condition in the next DSM would be a psychological stepping stone toward the treatment of such individuals, however, it appears that sociological controls must be put in place as well if the rest of us are to advance in knowledge and freedom.

  8. As long as Christianity is law of the land, white men are unquestioned gods.
    Of course they fight to keep their divinity.

  9. Oh my goodness….do you guys really believe your posts? Such ridiculous rhetoric on here…are you all fanatical…hmm…seems like a site for unbelievers to vent. How many of you know about the proven frauds of evolution that are still taught in schools today. I`m about to eat supper so I`m too lazy to point them all out to you but if you really want to know…just google them. So many are such a joke. No, I don`t condone violence at any abortion clinic either…..but you advocate for the mass killings of unborn children. Ok….why not just kill them after they are born….or a year or two after…huh…wouldn`t it be quite so convenient then would it. Christianity is not a religion. I guess that`s what you people can`t understand, right. It is a an amazing relationship with Jesus Christ. You don`t know Him or you wouldn`t be posting such uniformed comments. He loves you and gave Himself for you at a great cost….I was not brought up in a religous family….in fact…I hated religion….but once you have met the Saviour you will never be the same my friends….what I found out in such a very real way… is true. I sincerely hope some of you find Him as well.

    • Tony Schaapman
      Are you suggesting I don’t have a right to question you?

      Don’t assume you’re making any sense.
      We all know everyone has a right to question what they find questionable.

      Question is….
      What are you hiding? Liars always have something to hide.


      Since we’re talking about an intangible thing, that is to be understood like equating the word daylight to the sun, without any objection- as those two intangible experiences are empirical, we need to focus on objective evidence.

      Science has figured out a way to copy a particular flavor that is experienced empirically; many do agree that beyond burger patties taste like a grilled meat burger…

      But you see, the embarrassing part of all this is that you are now coming to realize that you can’t say this about the intangible concept of “God” simply because of how many religions are out there.

      So obvious
      So shameful

    • Brett you are caught up in the fundamentalists frenzy yourself. You say you are not religious yet you spout the very tenants of that form of religious dogma. You accept no other path but yours. That is the whole point of this article, yet the other point is those that follow that path don’t look at anything else that is outside of their very narrow view of life and society. You will read my words but I know I will fail to motivate you to further examination into your already self divine path. Fear is a very powerful motivation, anything outside of your self conceived relationship with Jesus makes you their puppet. You have failed to accept your Jesus and go out and experience life with him . You are a coward.

  10. It’s called “Christian fundamentalism” as an attempt to remove the atrocities committed in the name of “Christianity”.
    Supremacist tribalism, superstition and wishful thinking are fundamental aspects of Christianity, that is indisputable.

    Oh sure, you can say Jesus taught about loving your neighbor, but ahem, that isn’t an exclusive tenet owed by Christianity, besides Jesus resorted to hostility towards those who rejected him like a typical insecure supremacist bully

  11. Modern American fundamentalist 'Christianity' does not resemble the supposed teachings of Christ in any way whatsoever. Their theocratic leanings are cherry-picked from the worst bits of Paul (who was actually early Christianity's first apostate in truth) and the most punitive and barbaric sections of the Old Testament (a rag-tag collection of writings by a bronze-age semitic tribal cult). No one in the Bible (including Yeshua bar Yosef or Jehovah/Yahweh) knew anything about America – and the teachings were centred around an blood sacrifice covenant between ancient Jews and their sky god. The Bible is neither consistent – nor does it offer any sort of moral code to live by. If you truly followed it to the letter you would quickly land in jail. So, the fact that a large percentage of Americans think it should be the basis of government and society is absolutely moronic. No Christian follows the teachings of Jesus to the letter anyway. Do you see fundamentalists turning the other cheek, giving all their possessions to the poor, living in communes with no thought for today? Of course not! Jesus lived and preached under Roman occupation and did not try to become overtly political, instead hedging his bets when asked about Roman taxation. By trying to legislate their beliefs Christians actually go against the teachings of the man their religion is named after, a man who instructed his followers to stick to matters of the heart. Fundamentalists obsess over abortion and homosexuality, two issues that Christ didn't think important enough to mention even once, although many times railing against religions hypocrisy and Pharisaic puritanism. Worse still, Fundamentalists support the least Christ-like political party and politicians, those who oppose public healthcare, gun control, aiding refugees, any sort of social programs for the poor and needy, and protecting the earth that God supposedly made for them. In short, modern Fundamentlist Christians are an anathema to the origins of their faith, a 19th century puritanical collective that is a mere simulacrum and now a complete sham.

  12. Liberal views seem to be, if it feels good do it, comsequences be damned. After following this way of thinking and the fruit of your actions has your tit in the wringer, oh I deserve for someone to pick up the tab for my actions. For example, twist the truth and make an innocent baby pay your tab for your poor judgement. Real christianity teaches love for each other. Lets get real here.

  13. Don’t believe the Christian lie which was created by Romans to control the masses.
    No christians were kill by lions. Proven!

    There was no Roman record of Saul who became Paul, or the three Mary’s.

    Romans changed the zero date three times to make the lies in the Bible coincided with their lies.
    Charlemagne killed hundreds of thousands of people to force the people to believe his lies.
    No Christianity is a lie


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