Rick Santorum: Separation Of Church And State A Communist Idea, Not An American One

By Brian Tashman | 1 December 2014
Right Wing Watch

Rick Santorum

In a conference call with members of right-wing pastor E.W. Jackson’s STAND America that was posted online today, former senator Rick Santorum disputed the existence of the separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution, dismissing it as a Communist idea that has no place in America.

A listener on the call told Santorum that “a number of the things that the far left, a.k.a. the Democrat [sic] Party, and the president is pushing for and accomplishing actually accomplishes a number of the tenets of ‘The Communist Manifesto,’ including the amnesty, the elevation of pornography, homosexuality, gay marriage, voter fraud, open borders, mass self-importation of illegal immigrants and things of that nature.” The likely presidential candidate replied that “the words ‘separation of church and state’ is not in the U.S. Constitution, but it was in the constitution of the former Soviet Union. That’s where it very, very comfortably sat, not in ours.”

Of course, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, among others, referred to the separation of church and state when explaining the amendment which they drafted.

Later in the call, Santorum continued to lecture President Obama on race in America, telling Jackson — who once criticized a desegregation plan as “social engineering” — that Obama harmed race relations and, ironically, failed “to do something transformational.”

“When you cavort with Al Sharpton, you certainly aren’t into racial reconciliation, that sort of sums it up right there,” he said. “You surround yourself with folks who are not healers but dividers, this president has been the divider-in-chief on so many fronts. You had hoped, as you mentioned, Bishop [Jackson], you hoped that on this front it was an opportunity for the president to do something transformational, that he could’ve been that figure that could’ve made a real difference in racial reconciliation, could’ve made a real difference just within the black community and he chose to take a different path, he chose to use it as a wedge issue as opposed to an issue that was one that he said he wanted to accomplish when he was going to heal the country. He has done anything but.”

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258 COMMENTS

  1. I thought knowing the constitution was a requirement for HS graduation? let alone a qualifier for election to congress? Who votes for these morons anyway?
    That's a trick question, btw… LOL!!

    • Great thoughts and insights.

      Yes, everyone seeking to serve our country should know our Constitution very well and be able to say what it means.

  2. "The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. . . Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery…" John Adams “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

  3. It is right there danced around and spoken several times but each time people point in the wrong direction. Leastways on the first page. I am sure somebody has made this same point. That being. the separation of STATE AND CHURCH. Now did anybody catch that? the state has to stay out of the church. The government has no business telling a church how to pray or worship. That is all. but it has blown up into anything that smacks of a belief in a deity cannot be associated with the government? I am sick to death of having my rights trampled on if I want to say a prayer in public then don't watch as I stand silently. Or if it is a gathering were a group of believers pray for something out loud to bad if you are offended. We are offended by plenty you complainers do.

    • So pray if you want; who is stopping you?
      I prayed before every test I took while working on my associate degree. Nobody tried to stop me.
      Perhaps that was because I didn’t insist on holding the test up while I stood and invoked my God (I am a Christian) and insisted that everyone either join in or sit silently monitored ny the instructor.
      Stop trying to find something to complain about. Not everyone shares your desire to draw attention to yourself by “praying loudly in the corners of the street. But when you pray go into your closet and pray and God, seeing you pray in private, will reward you openly.”

      • Dear GOD yes, THANK you for showing morons that denial of oppresor does NOT equal OPPRESSION seriously from a white dude in America so disgusted at these Trump pandemic Faux Propaganda LLC delusional patients and their nonsolutions of ANY problem EVER while creating dozens more fighting AGAINST every problem solution model. If ANYONE deserved oppression and Genocide. Just saying… World history in picture and global growing climatic crisis in perspective. Your either HUMAN or you ain’t and the BIGLY PRIDE parade is no less dangerous than Jonestown psycho. Thanks for having some sense while believing in god and maintianing intelligence. :)

  4. I am surprised at the ignorance of most comments. The reality is that all 13 original colonies in their respective state constitutions specifically stated they were a Christian state and 11 of the original colonies specifically stated a church that they recognized. The same men who authored the state constitutions were party to the federal Constitution. There is NO separation of church and state in the Constitution. If government stuck to their only purpose i.e. protect life, liberty and property there would be no conflict between people.

    It is impossible to separate church and state. When you vote what do you vote based on? A value system. Where is the value system derived from?

    • To have separation between church and state were a great ideas from the great mind that shape this country. They are many Christian groups and non Christian group of religious people whom believe in freedom to pray the way they choose.

      No want to tell you what you should do or pray. Common Sense should tell you that person is different. In fact all three major faith have a common source and traditional.

    • Common sense.
      I am an atheist, and don’t need a fantasy figure in the sky (or a tree – whatever). And I am demonstrably more ethical and moral than so many of the god-botherers who make so much fuss with attitudes that would horrify JC.
      Do unto others… etc. Doesn’t take a genius to work that out. My kids worked that out for themselves in kindergarden.
      Enjoy your faith, I’m cool, but don’t try to push it on me or my society.

  5. Hmmm … even as Australian all the way down in Tasmania i know Mr. Santorum's notions to be a lie. Perhaps consult some American history and compare the passing of the First Amendment (1791 isn't it?) with the appearance of the first communist state (1918 ?). In fact it could be argued that Max commenting that religion is the opiate of the masses in 1844, publishing the Communist Manifesto in 1848 and Das Capital in 1867 would have had the example of the founding 'parents' of the US and its constitution to follow :) . Nothing could be worse for a Nation than for its leaders and representatives to no nothing of their own history. :)

  6. The state is a evil, luciferian, Satanist, Demonology, devil’s secret society that relies on religions mind control brainwashing, done the the majority not educated in how to think or how to think freely and critically, not educated in emotions, or how to control their thinking and emotions, instead it’s cult indoctrination education, religions, medias etc..

  7. As a Canadian, if any politician started spioutung anything religious up here especially Christianity , I’d do my bast to help them be defeated

  8. The intent of the Constitution enhanced by the First Amendment was that no church should hold sway over the government, and that the government shall not infringe upon the religious beliefs of any person or church. The founding fathers collectively represented several different religious sects, all of them Jewish/Christian based, and even a few Agnostic with the attitude that if indeed there be a God, He has given us minds to think and reason, so we should do so wisely. They correctly and jointly believed that God has no interest in mankind obeying His written or natural laws by government compulsory mandate, thus elected to avoid establishing a State Church, but also recognized that even more of consternation would be the government infringement upon the personal liberty to both severally and corporately worship, or not to worship, a Divine Authority. The United States is thus founded upon the Rule of Law, and the laws the Congress passed initially were signed and enacted by the President and approved as to their Constitutional adherence by the Supreme Court. It’s no surprise that the original Code of Laws could easily have been taken right out of Leviticus, because God’s most basic laws are founded upon “the Golden Rule,” that each one would live in a manner of treating others as they would want to be treated… So don’t steal or cheat, don’t murder, tell the truth in witness before the court, etc., and laid the basic foundation for future generations to build upon.
    God has not changed… He still does not want mankind to come to Him from government compulsion, but from true and open hearts in respect for who He is, and what He has done for us. How we approach Him is a matter of individual persuasion, and religions are founded by man, not God. While our decisions may indeed have eternal consequence, He created us with the free will to choose, and no law or government force can ever make that choice for us.

  9. Santorum is fulfilling last day prophecies of Revelation. Bible predicts that there will be a curtailment of religious liberty in the end times. Read Flood chapter in Patriarchs and Prophets & Liberty of Conscience Threatened and Impending Conflict chapters of Great Controversy by Ellen White online to understand these last day events.

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