NY Bishop Rape Shames Abuse Victims: Boys Are ‘Culpable’ For Their Actions At 7 Years Old

By Charles Topher | 16 September 2015
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Syracuse Bishop Robert Cunningham testified in an abuse case that, in the eyes of the Church, the boys who were molested are also at fault.

Bishop Robert Cunningham of the diocese of Syracuse, NY doesn’t think priests should take all of the blame for decades, if not centuries, of sexual abuse against young boys. According to Cunningham, the “age of reason” in the Catholic church is seven, so those boys are culpable for their actions.

The shocking statement came during testimony that was recently released from a deposition for a federal lawsuit. Charles Bailey, a survivor of a priest’s abuse, asked then-Bishop James Moynihan whether the church held children victims partly responsible for sexual abuse from priests . “(Bishop) Moynihan said that right to my face – ‘The age of reason is 7, so if you’re at least 7 you’re culpable for your actions.’ That kind of floored me,” said Bailey.

Obviously, the sentiment isn’t something one Bishop believes, but a broader excuse used to cover for the guilt of sexual predators.

The “age of reason” may be seven years old, but that in no way makes it the “age it’s the kid’s fault he was raped.” According to church doctrine, seven is the age a child should understand the difference between right and wrong. It’s also the age a child is eligible for communion.

A spokesman for the diocese has been trying to defend the bishop, saying that his statements in a deposition don’t mean he believes children are responsible for being raped and that it was “unfair to use the deposition to characterize his position otherwise.”

“Unfair may not quite cut it where this man is concerned. When pressed on the issue, he said it wasn’t his place to know how much guilt was on the victim’s hands. The simple answer, “none,” became another distorted version of reality that somehow makes it at least partially a child’s fault when a priest abuses him.

“Well, I mean, without knowing the circumstances completely, did the boy encourage, go along with (it) in any way?” Cunningham asked. The lawyer asked Cunningham if he could imagine any circumstance in which a 14- or 15-year-old boy could be held responsible in the eyes of the church when a priest asks him to engage in sex.

“Obviously, what the priest did was wrong,” Cunningham said. “You’re asking me if the young man had any culpability, and I can’t judge that.”

Actually, you can judge that. Anyone can judge that. What happened is priests used their influence and position as “messengers of God” to force children to comply with their perverted sexual desires. In the very least they were forced to make adult decisions they didn’t have the capacity to make. This bishop and all the priests he defended with this mindless argument betrayed the trust of the parishioners and especially the children of the Diocese of Syracuse.

Charles Bailey has circulated a petition he intends to present to Pope Francis in Philadelphia during his visit to remove Bishop Cunningham as the head of the church there.

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448 COMMENTS

  1. Children are taught to respect their elders and do as they are told by them… so to say a 7 year old is ‘culpable’ is ludicrous. Nothing can condone the actions an adult forces on a child…not when it comes to sexual abuse. I hope there is a Hell. His soul will burn with the other monsters.

  2. as a God fearing Christian (Catholic) who knows what Jesus’ CLEAR example & instructions are, it is OBVIOUS to me that “dope Francis” is a deluded imbecile at best, and at worst a vile serpent blaspheming heretic..!!!
    Jesus would REBUKE satanic perverse koranimals, not enable encourage & cajole them like dope Francis does.
    Jesus would teach the inbred genocidal supremacists the word of the True God, and would show NO respect for or acceptance of a false “prophet” mass murderer sociopath molester of chlid “brides” like moohuMAD as dope Francis does.
    Jesus would speak out in defence of his true followers and condemn those that commit genocide against them, not turn his back & abandon the millions of persecuted Christians as dope Francis does.
    And Lastly, Jesus would not protect & harbour (accessory after the fact..!!!) child molesting paedophiles…
    “Whosoever harms these little children shall suffer all the punishments of hellfire and be stricken from the book of life…”

  3. Pretty sure tbe preists are over the age of 7 whats there reason …. self gratification power manipulation sick in the head … its just crazy the amount of victims of sexual assault not just in the church either its everywhere.

  4. I also find it so odd too that the organization that the Catholic Church has that operates their hospitals are so unkind and uncaring and unthoughful of theirs patients, the Doctors, Nurses, Techs and just any one that they employ or works there to keep patients alive can be thrown away, dismissed for no cause, just to save the dollars at the expense of patients DYING and their SUFFERING! All in the name of GREED! There are a lot of things that go unsaid in fear that one will lose their job. Fear! I can’t even disclose my e-mail for fear it would be traced back to my loved one and they would lose their job!! Patients can’t sue because attorneys will not take the cases because they know they can not Win, but that doesn’t mean that wrongdoing doesn’t happen and SIN is not present at the Highest Levels! But, praise Be to God, He sees it all and He is THE JUDGE that NO ONE hides from!!

    So, all that think about DOLLARS AND THAT BOTTOM LINE REMEMBER THIS!!

  5. This Bishop is on “another Planet ” and
    is clearly trying to ” divert some responsibility ” from Senoir members of the Church.
    It just shows how they try and protect the Church as much as possible regardless of the crimes committed !
    I’m appalled and just adds to my cynical views that these people pretend to have a belief in a God and high standards that supposedly go with that.
    You can call me an Atheist anyday and will not be ashamed.

  6. My two husband’s grew up Catholic. When they met me we went to nondenominational churches because they both said that the Catholic church has become demonic. The pppe is a joke. He even kisses the Koran. The very people who are supposed to didciple the sheep are sending them down the road to hell. Instead of discipline they are just moved to a different parrish where they continue their debauchery. False church, false leader amd teachers.
    However, on the otherhand, they do help the poor and homeless. Somewhere in them is an ounce of kindness.The people that go to the church are by and large very giving people. They believe in a form there of without the power.
    I believe that this pope is the false prophet mentioned in Revelations.
    We are in the end times. Jesus is just about here. Beware!!!

  7. The criticism here is a nutshell example of the double standard/inconsistency presented by liberals. If it is a case of abuse, a 14-15 year old is ‘being forced to make adult decisions they didn’t have the capacity to make.’ Hmm… Is this ‘adult decision’ that they ‘don’t have the capacity to make’, entering willingly into a sexual act? First, this is an observation that does not truly apply to the true victim of sexual abuse. The victim of sexual abuse who is groomed and silenced and shamed, does not operate in the world of decision making that requires a particular age-fed capacity. So, the observation is an illegitimate one first off. Secondly, the same people who say that 14-15 year olds don’t have the capacity to make adult decisions about sex, are surely the ones stumping for free condoms available at their local high school. Because, of course, when it’s ‘consensual’, doesn’t matter if it’s with a minor (statutory rape), a same-sex, an adult, an animal or whatnot. Consent is king! As long as it’s consensual and ‘responsible’ (as long as no STD or pregnancy comes from the act, there is NO DAMAGE DONE- NO HARM.) So, which is it? Are 15 year olds to be kept from sexual acts with ANYONE, priests, Boy Scout troop leaders, pastors, uncles ONLY if they don’t consent and have a condom? Of course not! There is a serious issue here, under the mantle of the sexual revolution and the ‘liberty’ that the Pill ‘afforded’ us of where to draw the line. And with eroding morality, that line is drawn further and further afield. This is another example where the splitting of hairs reveals the true fatal inconsistency and illogic of secular humanistic thinking. The truth is that we need to go back to keeping sexual intercourse between a man and a woman in a committed, loving marriage relationship- and all else condemned at least as much as smoking and drinking and driving- but it should be more so- because, though not as obvious, the destruction from misuse of sexuality is far more destructive on a personal and societal scale than any cigarette has ever been. And now we’re seeing that more obviously.

  8. The pope is a criminal and must resign if the Roman Catholic Church is to survive. Go Orthodox; Russian Orthodox if you want to find a true church.

  9. The culpability of religion to perform its daily misdeeds reminds of us of PT Barnum’s admonition: “There’s a sucker born every minute” but using 7 year olds as the cocksuckers gets to the top of long list of religious perfidies!!

  10. Bishop Robert Cunningham of the diocese of Syracuse, NY, you have a warped sense of the age of consent. A 7-year-old boy cannot legally consent to any sexual.behavior. Heck, there is not much in this life that he can legally consent to, without having his parents permission. So please do not justify sex with a very young child. That is disturbing in the ninth degree!. Aren't you in the least embatassed to have said what you did

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