NY Bishop Rape Shames Abuse Victims: Boys Are ‘Culpable’ For Their Actions At 7 Years Old

By Charles Topher | 16 September 2015
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Syracuse Bishop Robert Cunningham testified in an abuse case that, in the eyes of the Church, the boys who were molested are also at fault.

Bishop Robert Cunningham of the diocese of Syracuse, NY doesn’t think priests should take all of the blame for decades, if not centuries, of sexual abuse against young boys. According to Cunningham, the “age of reason” in the Catholic church is seven, so those boys are culpable for their actions.

The shocking statement came during testimony that was recently released from a deposition for a federal lawsuit. Charles Bailey, a survivor of a priest’s abuse, asked then-Bishop James Moynihan whether the church held children victims partly responsible for sexual abuse from priests . “(Bishop) Moynihan said that right to my face – ‘The age of reason is 7, so if you’re at least 7 you’re culpable for your actions.’ That kind of floored me,” said Bailey.

Obviously, the sentiment isn’t something one Bishop believes, but a broader excuse used to cover for the guilt of sexual predators.

The “age of reason” may be seven years old, but that in no way makes it the “age it’s the kid’s fault he was raped.” According to church doctrine, seven is the age a child should understand the difference between right and wrong. It’s also the age a child is eligible for communion.

A spokesman for the diocese has been trying to defend the bishop, saying that his statements in a deposition don’t mean he believes children are responsible for being raped and that it was “unfair to use the deposition to characterize his position otherwise.”

“Unfair may not quite cut it where this man is concerned. When pressed on the issue, he said it wasn’t his place to know how much guilt was on the victim’s hands. The simple answer, “none,” became another distorted version of reality that somehow makes it at least partially a child’s fault when a priest abuses him.

“Well, I mean, without knowing the circumstances completely, did the boy encourage, go along with (it) in any way?” Cunningham asked. The lawyer asked Cunningham if he could imagine any circumstance in which a 14- or 15-year-old boy could be held responsible in the eyes of the church when a priest asks him to engage in sex.

“Obviously, what the priest did was wrong,” Cunningham said. “You’re asking me if the young man had any culpability, and I can’t judge that.”

Actually, you can judge that. Anyone can judge that. What happened is priests used their influence and position as “messengers of God” to force children to comply with their perverted sexual desires. In the very least they were forced to make adult decisions they didn’t have the capacity to make. This bishop and all the priests he defended with this mindless argument betrayed the trust of the parishioners and especially the children of the Diocese of Syracuse.

Charles Bailey has circulated a petition he intends to present to Pope Francis in Philadelphia during his visit to remove Bishop Cunningham as the head of the church there.

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    • Prepare to be disappointed. Neither you nor they will survive your or their death. A criminal court with a human judge is what they should face and those that protected them.
      The only good that may come out of this is that more people will stop believing in this nonsense and this death cult will slowly wither and die

  1. They are cloistered young vieral men that are deprived of sexual release as one of their vows to God. They hide behind their frocks their cloisterd dorm rooms and private worship As A catholic scool boy I have learned that one of our ” Brothers” after being transferred to a parish was exposed as a pedophile. I wonder if he was transfered once discovered in the all boy school setting…just pass him on. Many times we would go on mission retreats to meet with more older religious pius men in their prime
    20-30’s makes you wonder what was really going on. Hmm.
    Not to imply all the staff had homosexual tendencies but statistics show that a percentage of men in an age group put togeter there will be a number of latent homosexuals in the group.Hell in High School we had a Brother that taught English and sat behind his desk and litterly humped his desk while lecturing No this is not my gay imagination my straight friends also to this day remember this as a fact. I wonder what happened to him and what poor parish he got transferred to.I have a memory of being felt up while learning to play the organ all alone in the chapel with Brother no name .I hope he grew out of it or truly found God. but I doubt it.I truly believe that this has been going on in the church from the begining of time and because of the churches wealth the hierarchy must put up a cloud to hide behind their stage performance is a grand one. They should really be taxed as there is a seperation of state and church imagine the income that the government would collect just on income tax not to mention state land tax talk about teachers being under paid here is a bunch of funding!! Charge and jail those priests that have molested our children ruined their minds made their lives horrible and actually taken them away from the church. It starts right at the top where the Pope and his Bishops cardinals and priest’s are all involved in the great cover up for centuries even the sisterhood and brotherhood staff and employees of the Church are all or mostly have a hand in the grand cover up of Child Molestation How Can this Guy say that children can consent to being molested by priests at 7 years old because they are priests,is disgusting these men of God are hiding their true sexuality that they can’t come to terms with
    And hide behind the frock.

    • Wow!!! You couldn’t have said it better. Thank you for putting that out there. I think all the Catholic church is corrupt too. Your words said it all.

    • The worst freaks of the Catholic Church are kept under guard at Incarnate Word University in San Antonio. I learned this from Scarface Master Pedifile at 13911 Kearney Road, Atascosa, TX 78002. Incarnate Word is ironically where O sponsored my first Native American Church ceremony for the children of the world and a special friends child who was in need of healing. After the ceremony the headwaters of the San Antonio located on campus began to flow and my friends child was healed and is flourishing today. It disgusts me that the city of San Antonio uses their sacred river walk as a primary sewer system. Twisted.

    • Can we remember that there’s a big difference between homosexuality and pedophilia please? It’s really archaic to lump these two groups together at all.

      • Unfortunately in the bulk of these cases, it is both homosexuality and pedophilia. It is ludicrous to lump the two together under normal circumstances. However, the priests were commiting homosexual acts with minors which is the definition of pedophilia. I have many gay friends who are not pedophiles, and they aren’t characterized as such.

  2. How I long to hear a true story where a teenager or even a seminarian kicked in the groin his would-be clerical seducer real hard! Nowadays you have to tell a child not to allow even a cleric to touch his/her private parts, no matter what they say!

  3. …I see ALL religions,and especially Catholicism, as being organisations of Spiritual Fascism,whose main aim is to preserve a conservative outlook and manipulate vulnerable people .

  4. What’s horrific is that a person with this mindset is allowed to be a bishop, never mind being ordained a priest. There is something very rotten in the upper ranks of the clergy which is allowing this to go unchallenged. He should be made an example of! No wonder so many people are leaving the church.

    • This clerical monstrosity needs to be defrocked and removed from public life. He should also be criminally charged with public encouragement of a sex crime.

  5. Perhaps the celibacy should be removed from the requirement, allow the person to grow normally and naturally satisfy their sexuality. Maybe this will stop some of the desperate tension and release by rape and secrecy. Sex is not a crime, homosexuality is not a crime, god’s Word if he exists has been destroyed by the powers of religion especially the Catholic Church.
    Yes there will still be some sexual predators , unfortunately there are some people in all groups of people that have a distorted mind. The church can no longer be used as a cloak to protect its rape and other abuse, they need to be fully accountable by law not swept under the religious carpet.
    Churches and members there of should be taxed, rates and service charges should apply to all, make them commercially accountable, if it means they have to charge for people to attend, it will be interesting how many still follow this world of sky pixies

  6. A significant number of the college of Cardinals are gay. Many of them have lovers who live in the Vatican with them. But this is not an issue about being gay. This is an issue about being a pedophile which has absolutely nothing to do with their sexual orientation. Pedophiles molest boys and pedophiles molest girls. the reason it is so shocking to hear the stories of men who were molested as children is that no one talks about men being molested at all. It’s part of the macho thing. But the reality is it’s about power and dominance and submission. what part of knowing right from wrong at age 7 did all of these clerics Miss? This happens not just in the Catholic Church but it is prevalent in the Orthodox Jewish community as well and my guess is that it is prevalent wherever there is strict orthodoxy and a Prohibition against criticism. When you are not allowed to question ; when you are taught from birth that the cleric is a holy man who can never be questioned oh, you can expect a child to be cooperative. And these very same people threatened children with threats to their families if they betray the secret. A combination of strict orthodoxy and a vulnerable population is the perfect recipe for disaster.

  7. WOW, this Bishop doesn't remember very much, does he. Maybe he has Alzheimers when it comes to this particular subject. What a crock of sh*t. The fault falls on The Pope for not allowing Roman Catholic Priests to marry. There are next to no incidents on this in the religions who allow their priests to marry, LIKE THE UKRAINIAN ORTHODOX. I rest my case. SO SO PATHETIC

  8. This archbishop is so full of it! The Catholic Church does more harm than good! Then begs everyday fir more money to pay their lawyer bills. Just a organized cult!


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