Conservative Christian Pastor Calls for Executing All Gay People by Christmas Day

This post by Stephen D. Foster Jr. originally appeared at Addicting Info.

Pastor Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona.

It sounds like a sermon that would be delivered in Uganda, but it’s actually from the mouth of an American pastor in Arizona.

Conservative Christian Pastor Steven Anderson openly called for executing every gay person in America during a Sunday sermon at his church in Tempe, Arizona. He claimed from the pulpit that gays need to be put to death in the name of God by Christmas Day in an effort to wipe out AIDS, even though AIDS is not a virus exclusive to the LGBT community. Anderson opined:

Turn to Leviticus 20:13, because I actually discovered the cure for AIDS. If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS. It was right there in the Bible all along — and they’re out spending billions of dollars in research and testing. It’s curable — right there. Because if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn’t have all this AIDS running rampant.

In addition, Anderson went on a hateful tirade about how gay people will never be allowed to step foot inside his church.

“No homos will ever be allowed in this church as long as I am pastor here,” Anderson declared. “Never! Say ‘You’re crazy.’ No, you’re crazy if you think that there’s something wrong with my ‘no homo’ policy.”

Here’s the video via YouTube.

Slowly but surely, conservatives are becoming more extreme in their anti-gay views. So much so, that some are now willing to endorse genocide in the name of God in a desperate bid to force their agenda of hate upon the nation. Despite the fact that the Constitution is the law of the land, conservative Christians like Anderson want to replace that document with the Bible.

The mass extermination of an entire group people is something the Nazis would be applauding. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, conservatives are acting just like the Nazis did in Germany, from claims that homosexuality is a sign of the decay of the nation, to claiming that it’s a disease that can be “cured,” to calling for killing gay people.

Many in Germany regarded the Weimar Republic’s toleration of homosexuals as a sign of Germany’s decadence. The Nazis posed as moral crusaders who wanted to stamp out the “vice” of homosexuality from Germany…

Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured, they designed policies to “cure” homosexuals of their “disease” through humiliation and hard work.

Thousands of gay people died in concentration camps under Nazi rule.

It sounds like Anderson is one of those who are posing as a “moral crusader” to push their hateful anti-gay agenda. And yet, conservatives have the nerve to compare liberals to the Nazis. If we continue to stand by and allow conservatives to take power in the United States, we may discover to our horror that similar Nazi anti-gay policies have been established under the cloak of religion.

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448 COMMENTS

      • Shamir Shabazz has been arrested repeatedly. The same should happen to this *pastor* —and anyone else encouraging hate like this.

    • Because what this sack of garbage said is protected by the 1st Amendment.

      And as disgusting and disgraceful as this guy's sermon is, we had all better be damn grateful that he has the right to say it. Because his right to be disgusting and disgraceful is the same right that we're using right now to bitch about it on the Internet.

      Don't forget that.

        • You are correct, but the current "Administration" won't see it that way. If you stop a Christian from threatening people, you will be seen as "Persecuting" Christians! Merry F*ing Holidays/Christmas everyone!

      • Inciting violence or murder is not protected under the first amendment much like yelling fire in a crowded movie theater when there is not one is not protected due to the dangerous situation it makes for people.

    • This so called man of God that hate's Gay's need's to read the new testament! no where does it say that it is wrong , but I don't understand why you bible thumpers have a problem with sex/love and I know behind closed door's your the biggest perverts of them all , ps don't judge that's Gods job! Peace out ⚡

      • Precisely… he calls for their death and that is just wrong from a moral stand point but so long as he hasn't killed anyone it is just rude not criminal behavior. If others started killing gays then you might get into wether he incited them to do so but at least for now he has called for something but hasn't actually done anything… it's about actions not words no matter how foul those words are.

      • Dear Lawrence: The people who talk trash on the bible know nothing of it, other than zio media descriptions. All people, even nonbeleivers, who actually read and study the bible even for a bit are in awe.

    • Funny how people like that quote one line of the Bible but if you quote back a rebuttal they are left speechless. Beyond the fact that what he is doing is abhorrent, he is absolutely wrong. Translations of the Bible going back to the original language speak of a different interpretation to this line. They shall be put to death means shall experience in inner death because they will doubt themselves In doubting the love of God for them. Additionally, even if you believed that to be the correct interpretation, the New Testament teaches that Jesus came to form a new alliance and basically invalidated all of the Commandments and laws from the old testament. He made it clear there’s only One Law, to love God above all things and love your brother as you love yourself, period. And I mean period. No if‘s, ands, or buts about it. Therefore this guy is what the Bible calls a false prophet. Oh by the way, another line they forget is the one where God says vengeance is mine. Our job is to love one another, let God be the judge of everything we do. And let he who is without sin throw the first stone. This guy is guilty of promulgating hate, which is against God‘s commandment. He’s got a lot of sin and he should not be throwing out stones. Not that I believe in sin, but if you use their philosophy, even within their philosophy can you prove them absolutely wrong. If you are gay person out there, suffering because of this, or because of all the hate people problem gate against you, please take this to heart. You are loved, you are a perfect creation from a perfect creator. And God loves his creations. That is all.

  1. He has not been arrested because you cannot get arrested for saying things. The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America protects HIS right to free speech and religion (as well as press, assembly, and petitioning the government) – AND it protects YOURS AS WELL! And that is your civics lesson for the day.

      • Carlos is correct, and it’s not just hate speech that is not protected. Speech that incites violence is also not protected by the constitution.

      • Isn't it, though? You can't threaten someone, harass them, or incite violence, but merely holding a hateful opinion is not protected. I can see how you could argue this pastor was inciting violence, although the lack of specificity might make that hard, but as a general thing you can believe what you'd like.

      • Hate speech is protected. You can say any hateful thing you like. You can say “Homosexuals should be killed” what you can not say is “John, kill that homosexual over there”. You can not directly incite violence. If that were not so, the legal system would spend all its time deciding what is “hateful”. For example, in my opinion, half of what comes out of the mouth of the average Trump voter is “hateful” but its not illegal.

        • Actually, you can not say "Homosexuals should be killed" and expected to be protected by freedom of speech because that is actually suggesting a genocide, not to mention a verbal/written (depending on the delivery method) threat, and depending on the prosecutor a few different charges.

          People should really read up on freedom of speech and laws pertaining to these matters. You might also want people to look at the sentence composition because it should be very clear if you make a statement and try to use the "freedom of speech" line.

          This gentleman certainly has a right to his opinion and that is fair, but he also is no longer protected by the church either and you might want to brush up on the Doctrine of the church. Also, who was the publisher of this bible, because there is no translation from the original scripts for "Aids/Hiv" especially since the discovery of the virus was in 1983 and the term was coined in 1982 by the public health officials. Also, the virus is believed to originate from a specific chimpanzee in West Africa (This information is pulled from theaidsinstitute.org.) So he is now trying to use religion, which in this case is obviously a doctored bible, to spout something that has no biblical context and is actually a discovery made in science and not the church. So, he has now also committed a major case of fraud. Also, the rates of HIV infection are currently stable across the board at the moment in the United States (CDC).

          This Pastor is certainly entitled to his opinion, but he has certainly violated several laws (including the first amendment ) and Church doctrine. Also, the bible is a translated text, that has been composed by several different authors, put together by a council of people, and has had books/passages removed from it. It may not be used as a factual guide as it has no merit in a world that actually has a method for verifying if something is factual. The Bible also has a mass collection of opinions and I am not dismissing the bible or the religious use just pointing out that it cannot be used to make as a source to make claims as he did as it would be fraud because there is no evidence to support what he said per this article.

          • You are right. " Thou shalt not kill".. That in itself makes claiming all those of a specific nature should be killed. Of course, those that claim to know what's on Gods mind? That will go on for a long time. I think I will just stick with "Thou shalt not kill". Or, one of my favorites, "vengeance is mine, sayeth the lord". I know that there will be a lot of, 'yeah, but'. It's all about the money.

      • Your are wrong.

        "You very frequently get public officials and even lawyers saying "hate speech is not free speech." But that is not correct! The Supreme Court never has created a category of speech that is defined by its hateful conduct, labeled it hate speech, and said that that is categorically excluded by the first amendment. Speech cannot be punished just because of its hateful content. But when you get beyond content and look at context, speech with a hateful message may be punished, if in a particular context it directly causes certain specific, imminent, serious harm — such as a genuine threat that means to instill a reasonable fear on the part of the person at whom the threat is targeted that he or she is going be subject to violence."
        https://www.npr.org/2018/06/01/616085863/free-spe

    • Thank you for clearly stating what all these people who don't understand why this man hasn't been arrested for what he is saying ought to have already known.

      It is appalling to me that so many Americans today don't know if understand the Bill of Rights or why we have it and appear to be so ready to throw it away.

      That said, this man's words are hateful and way out of line with what Christianity itself actually teaches. Jesus would treat any gay person exactly the way He treated the woman caught in adultery. He would not condemn them, and He would say, "Go and sin no more." Jesus did not come to destroy people's lives, but to save them.

    • Wrong.

      You very much can be arrested for saying things. Yell fire in a theater, or say you'd like to assassinate the president, and you'll quickly find yourself arrested.

      The breaking point is if a speech is about to cause imminent lawless actions, per the Supreme Court, or makes

      This speech asked for it, but I don't think anyone takes him seriously.

      Plus, I think our government is scared of the extremist conservative Christians and what they'll do. Likely view the preacher as martyr.

    • Excellent reply, sir. I detest this piece of garbage and what he says, but he has a right to say it, and that right we must never take away.

    • Actually, it doesn't protect terroristic calls for violence.

      You can have an opinion, you can say whatever you want for the most part, but when you say "you ought to go kill these people" then you are breaking the law. This is the same reason why you can't hire a hitman. According to the supreme court paying someone is considered free speech. This is why corporations are allowed to bribe politicians through a Super PAC. Ordering someone to murder someone is not protected speech.

      The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action".[1][2] In Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the Supreme Court unanimously reversed the conviction of a Ku Klux Klan group for "advocating … violence … as a means of accomplishing political reform" because their statements at a rally did not express an immediate, or imminent intent to do violence.[3] This rule amended a previous decision of the Court, in Schenck v. United States (1919), which simply decided that a "clear and present danger" could justify a congressional rule limiting speech. The primary distinction is that the latter test does not criminalize "mere advocacy".[4]

    • There is a fine line between free speech and inciting people to kill John, you Americans have to stop using the right to free speech when someone is calling for a group of people to be killed. What he has said is against the law, f–k free speech and f–k the bullshit of religious freedom. If a group of people called for all priests to be killed for their beliefs or because they dont fit into the "norm" they would be called terrorists and locked up for life!. Its time that people be held accountable for their views and hate fill speeches, having a freedom of speech my be a right, but there is also a responsibility that comes with that right, you can not preach pure hatred and not have to answer for your hate filled views

    • Allow me to give you a civics lesson. Hate speech has been ruled by the supreme court to not be covered under the first amendment. Ergo this reprobate is not protected.

    • Of course he can be arrested for saaying things! If he threatens a person, or a group of persons, or encourages people to use violence, and that's exactly what he does!!

    • But by saying that LGBTQ are not allowed in his church is discrimination. And calling for extermination of a section of the population is hate speech, which IS against the law.

    • Freedom of speech does NOT mean freedom from thought. However, no person brainwashed into believing in invisible sky daddy's can THINK.

    • Hate speech is NOT free speech and is NOT protected under the First Amendment. If you incite violence or cause another person to act on your violent tendencies or instructions to commit murder, that IS illegal. It's the same as someone directing or urging another person to commit a murder and that person actually doing it. BOTH would be held accountable. I'm sure this pastor is being investigated.

    • Blah Blah Blah… Why can't people handle diversity… Things will only become more diverse and it's here people.. You WILL NOT change people and who and what they are…

    • By his own belief he has convicted himself and should be stoned to death. There is no doubt that the clothes he's wearing are of more than one kind of thread. An abomination in Leviticus. And I'm certain that somewhere along the line he has eaten she kind of shell fish. And abomination in Leviticus. If he's got kids, he most certainly should have stoned them to death if they ever sassed or disobeyed him. By US law, he would then have to be convicted of murder.
      These holier than thou people who profess to be christian break the laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy daily. But they're too busy pointing fingers at others in order to deflect folks from their own unholy behavior.
      I submit that this clown is NOT a christian. Do you know how many times Jesus mentioned homosexuality in the new testament? Absolutely none. Jesus was probably gay himself. Face it, he ran around with 12 men. And the bible says that he had a "special" affection for one of two of them. Then, of course, there was David and Johnathan.

    • @John: It depends on what it is that's said. I read just recently in our local (West Virginia) newspaper about a drunk person being arrested for saying they were going to kill everybody in a burger joint that they were in.

    • Hey, bonehead, FREE SPEECH does not refer to inciting murder. The First Amendment is with regards to the right to speak out against the government, not spew hateful BS.

  2. True, but he is threatening someone and calling for violence, which doesn’t fall under the protection of the first amendment if it is expected that these words will actually -cause- said violence… which is one of those “gray areas”. His speech most likely will be ignored by most (hopefully)… until it isn’t.

    “Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action.”

    • The sad part is that most people there are quite gullible and they believe without thinking… so if he gets people on his side then who is to say what can happen.

    • That the words he says will cause violence is all in your head. There are no gray areas in the laws. We could argue that your accusation that his words cause violence are inciting violence against him.

      • Words heard caused someone to send out multiple pipe bombs recently, and words about Jews funding the caravan to the border caused someone to shoot up a synagogue so the possibility his words might cause someone in his congregation to murder is quite possible.

    • It seems as though the one piece of the puzzle is not being
      called into question.
      Freedom of Speech ? Yes.
      Directly advocating someone kill gays? See you in court my guess would be.

      But that the "pastor" of a religious sect calling for an act of violence , one of the
      10 commandments , against a targeted group is more in line with a hate group,
      aryan supremacist , klan or that WW2 german social group FB throw you off for
      mentioning or comparing people to.
      It is acceptable for a " man of god" to invoke violence against any one goes against
      the very foundation of christianity and the brotherhood of loving your fellow man.
      He is a hate monger and deserves more to have a toe tag than a bible in his hand.
      This is why I am comtemptuous of organized religion. Anything spiritual man touches
      turns trash. That especially holds for the self righteous.

  3. The first amendment does not cover incitement to violence (which murder of homosexuals certainly is), nor yelling “fire” in a theater. Having and expressing your opinion is far different than trying to whip up your followers into committing criminal acts.

    • First off, the line is that “*falesly* yelling fire in a crowded theater would not be protected.” The falsely is a key part, as in America, truth is a major positive defense in speech claims.

      Second, the court case that line came from is a very dark moment in American jurisprudence, when it was determined it was legal to prosecute an American citizen for distributing pamphlets protesting the draft for WWI. Not a great line to quote.

    • I hate the asshole, but he did not incite the congregation to go out and kill "homos." He interpreted the Bible–perversely–and the Bible does say "they shall surely be put to death."

  4. What are the chances he’s had some gay experiences of his own and is hoping to get his followers to do the dirty work to prevent his “shame” from ever being exposed?

    • I wish the "Pastor" would get past the old testament where men can own slaves and daughters can be sold and go right to Matthew 7:1-4…

      1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? "

    • This man is what we call a CROSSDRAGGER A person who uses religion for his own ends death would be the only cure for his kind.

      • Disliking someone who's literally calling for your death is not the same as disliking someone because of something they can't change. That's the difference, and it's HUGE. Basically what you're saying is the equivalent of "Don't kill the person trying to murder you, even if it's self defense. Otherwise you're just as bad as the murderer!" or "Don't beat the person trying to rape your child, otherwise you're just as bad as they are!" Do you see how ridiculous your argument / comparison sounds now?

  5. Since when does being a Christian mean you are a conservative.Why are people trying so hard to look for ways to get butt hurt.Just like how does being conservative mean your racist.These unfounded thoughts which are actually opinions are just that opinions.Why was it ok to have another protest in Berkeley when they were meeting to pray and then the.wacko left actually did something where as the preacher just talked about it.why was it okay for the leader of the state Dept(which trained Hillary on rules and what happens if she breaks the rule)leaves her public servers vulnerable to attack with all the secret and top secret docs open to theft by anyone.why is okay for the same Secretary of State to help broker the deal for her campaign manager to broker the deal for 1/4 of all our Uranium to the Russians(fact in reality)to the Russians and the investigator Mueller actually took sample of Uranium to the Russians,and then they made up a fake Dossier and tried to get trump people in meetings with a Russian lawyer meeting at Trump Tower just so they could get a fisa warrant.You crazy Lefty’s are the ones who do so many crazy unconstitutional acts.

    • I suggest you use correct English and punctuation if you wish to get your message across. You are just ranting non-stop, parroting lies, name-calling and keeping old hurts inside of you that will eventually eat your soul.

    • As for Hillary's emails, well, your beloved demigogue's daughter is doing the same thing, only more so. No problem with that, right? As long as it's Republicans and conservatives doing it, everything is just peachy keen. And Trump incites violence, belittles people with disabilities, shows his hate for blacks, gays, the poor, the elderly, etc., etc., etc. But anyone who disagrees with him and his minions when they lie (like most of your statements) is crazy. Sorry, but it's Trump and conservatives who are trying to destroy this country.

      • You have hit the nail on the head. We have a President who has no knowledge of the Constitution and has an even less understanding of what he can and can not do under the Constitution. He blithers on about things he knows nothing about and incites anger and hatred against those who he perceives as his enemies or enemies of the state. He has no empathy for the poor and downtrodden. It appears his major concern is which of his golf courses he can visit for a 3-4 day weekend, as often as possible. I pity his children, he has drug them into the mess he has created and it seems that they can not find a viable way out.

    • Shows just how ignorant of "facts" you are. Russia bought 20 percent of a CANADIAN mining company that happens to be contracted to mine some of our uranium. First, 20 percent is a long way from controlling interest. Second, they only operate machines that mine the ore… ALL of which remains in the US. Third, you REALLY need to slow down on the conspiracy theory koolaid. Fourth and most important, the sale was negotiated and approved by a BIPARTISAN commission, of which she was only one member (as a Senator, not Sec State) and every single member of that commission has publicly stated that even if that deal were to come up today rather than then, they would STILL vote in favor of it. Time for you to toddle off and take a nap now, the grow ups are talking

    • What does hillary clinton have to do with this monster promoting death those he does not like? FYI , religion is going down the toilet and it can't happen soon enough. People like you are sick and we don't want to breathe the air with you anymore. I know plenty of people(I am in my 50s) who grew up with religion and are running away from it. The younger generations want NOTHING to do with it and rightfully so. Your post makes absolutely no sense. What I do get from it is that you are ok with killing homosexuals too? Nice christian people

      • My thoughts exactly. Pretty typical of those that don't have the capacity to stay on topic. There is a lot of hate there and a whole lot of, 'nobody listens'. That part he gets an 'A'. The rest? He gets a "WTF"?

    • You should have stopped at your first sentence which is a reminder that not all Christians nor Muslims nor Buddhists are extremists that call for violence and murder against others who do not follow their own ideologies. The rest of your comment would have been better suited for the pub after 6 pints.

    • You watch too much fake FOX TV and need to stop listening to the Big Orange Turn in the White House. Your comment is full of crap, untrue and unproven conspiracy theories and just plain nuts. You call others crazy, buddy you need your empty head examined. It's hard to believe that people like you actually believe the garbage you post on here. Get some help

    • Wow…it amazes me that RWNJs can never have a conversation without bringing up Hillary. The Steele Dossier is proving time and again to be true but has nothing to do with this nut job preacher calling for the deaths of all gays…are you defending this jackass? Trump is a thug mobster and has always been and always will be. Perhaps the American people won't actually have to impeach him…looks like he might just wander off stage…

    • Ray, you are an uneducated fool, who will listen to any crap that sounds conspiratorial, and believe it. By the way, the earth is not flat. And I do support Trump, Melania that is, her husband is a buffoon.

  6. So if hate speech is hated by someone else.us it hate speech.do you not see that this is a never ending circle of he said she said.When protestors for Antifa (anti first amendment)protest they call all conservatives racist,Nazis,xenphobes,islamaphobia,etc…I’m saying that anyone who says those things they are inciting riots,lible,slander etc.so why don’t you go to jail first

    • Because…… The people Antifa (Which stands for Anti FASCIST, not "Anti First Amendment") are protesting ARE racists, Nazis, xenophobes, and Islamaphobes. That's the difference. Being anti-Nazi is NOT the moral equivalent of being anti-black people, or anti-gay, or anti-woman. They're NOT THE SAME no matter how hard you try and compare the two.

  7. And do you monitor mosques,temples,groves,nametons,covens,and every other type of religious groups?Are you monitoring isis camps that are Leftist Islamics and Muslims who rape and kill Christian’s every day

    • Who says they're monitoring the church? The damned sermon was posted on Youtube for Christ's sake. If a Muslim Imam posted a video on Youtube calling for Christians to be murdered, you better damn well believe the government would be knocking on his door and taking him away.

    • You're an idiot. Muslim extremists are socially conservative and have no political affiliation outside of their religion. They support male dominance, banning of homosexuality, try to turn everything into a religious war, and oppress all races outside of their majority. Sound familiar? It should, because it's exactly what the halfwits that complain about "islamic leftists" do right here in America. You claim that your religion is better, that it didn't incite violence or that your extremists aren't that bad, and yet here's a pastor publicly calling for genocide. That's why the Christian right gets this coverage like it does, because you just can't help yourselves if the opportunity to show your true colors presents itself. You're just so stupid.

    • Isis camps that are leftist Islamic? That doesnt make sense. They are conservative Ieaning by their very nature and strongly so much you would call them far right lunatics.

    • Leftist Islamics? Surely you understand that religious fundamentalists are by definition very much conservatives. Your hatred of liberals and socialists does not give you the right to add liberal or leftist to everything bad in the world. You need to start thinking rationally my friend.

    • You are one twisted, miserable, sorry excuse for a human being, Ray. Take your hate somewhere else! You are more to be pitied than hated and I pray that someday you will learn how to "love thy neighbor!"

    • Since when has ISIS been "leftist". They dont share a single goddamn aim with the left.

      But hey, lets look at what aims they do have: They dont like PC. They don't like hsys. They think sex outside of marriage is sinful. They arent crash hot on big taxes.

      About the onlt thing separating American Christian conservatism from Taliban are the GOP hasn got into the whole beheading thing, yet,

      HMMMMM

    • "isis camps that are Leftist Islamics and Muslims" Wow! Your tin foil hat is on WAAAAY too tight! ISIS (as is any fundamental religious organization), is ULTRA CONSERVATIVE. The orthodoxy DEMANDS complete adherence to their archaic version of Islam (No different than radical fundamentalists of any other religion). When you talk about leftist Islamics and Muslims, those are the people who are AGAINST Isis. They pursued the Arabic Spring. Sought equality for women and inclusion of all peoples. ISIS believes in beheading LBGQ people (just like this yahoo preacher from Arizona). THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT other than following a different version of a magic man in the sky.

  8. Because, as Jesus said, “The most important law is that you treat everyone, of every race, every religion, and every sexual orientation, the way you want anyone to treat you.” (Matt. 7:12) Christians usually have a great deal of trouble remembering Jesus’s words, because these words frequently contradict their religious-based hatred of minorities.

    • Nowhere in God's Word is the term "sexual orientation" because God created one man and one woman to be together. He does say in His Word that Jesus frees us from Satan's bondage which includes the LGBT lifestyle.

    • So I looked up Matthew 7:12. Don't see anything about sexual orientation. New International Version: So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

      • Yeah, I looked it up also, since "sexual orientation" is a modern-era legal formulation. Matt 7: 12 is a paraphrase of the Golden rule.

  9. Ok whoever has the photos of his bromance and his last brojob. Needs to post them. I have never seen or heard a gay man with more self-loathing than this man. Perhaps if he gets the help of a supportive gay group to help out him he will feel more comfortable with his sexuality.

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